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Ok hear is my new time keeper.... a 04 400at rancher body.
I have a 450 foreman engine, a 500 stroker crank, weisco piston, web cam, ported head,and a gear reduction to put in it.
I  have a st of 2 axles @26" long to build a big lift with.  
I also have a gorrilla drive shaft made to fit a rancher front diff.
My question to yall is, do i make it independant, solid independant, or leave it solid.

im curious to know how a ujoint or what u-joint holds up to the large angles produced by big swing arm lifts. 
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first night a trial fit

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second night motor mounts built drive shaft in place next step is to raise the frame (unless the newstyle gas tank will clear the engine 

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gas tank wouldnt clear so i lifted the frame 1.5 inches

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yeah but im going to use round tubing instead and i dought ill go that high
but yeah thanks

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Bigger is better

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lol trust me bigger is better you will not be happy unless you have a 10 inch lift on it

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yes sir

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then ill do it

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whats your reason against the swingarm independant red? they both take some time the swing arm might take more to get it to look right.

Oh and i might need some suggestions on building tierods for a lift this big if you got any.

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thats kinda what i was going for in a small lift because its hard to "rock" the independant in a rut because the suspension gives

but if i build a big lift ill go with the full independant because i think the independant is more stable

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If you build it stiff you can rock it then


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yeah i threw all that swing arm sh!@ away last night and built a jig for a independant

i guess ill make a big one i want this one to look good
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jgmood050,  Where did you get that rear driveshaft?

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Lookin good dude

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the left side i made that way to clear the exhaust on the ranchers. if i do run disc
brake ill make my own off the hubs using old 300 ex parts because im going to
build my own bearing carriers i may have to use the highlifter studs though

the gorrilla drive shaft is on i got through some horse trading a while back i dont
know if they ever produced them the man i got it from was pretty tight with gorrilla notice it has a 1" bar.

i appreciate the words pondhopper and red
hiem joints or bushings on the arms what do yall think
and tie rods any ideas?


ill have some tacked together pics up in the morning

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Do it to it!

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yeah i bought a hdy manual bender they are not perfect but its my best so far

i built one out of 5/16 tubung and a tubing bender first then macthed my bends
only i marked the first side with a marker dead center of the bends so i could
measure the the center of my second side bends

from being oil field trash (lol) ive done a lot of work bending stainless tubing and had
enough to build the jig with 1/4 cold roll would work to

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LOOKING GOOD SO FAR KEEP THE PICS COMING PLEASE !

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will do if i can get off work at a desceant time

ive had to work late the past 3 nights

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Scared of that. Looks good

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lol

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got my diff tied downPICT0175.JPG
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You need to flip your diff over.

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i would love to flip it but it will not work.
believe me i tried it

when i flip it it spins backwards

i think it is because of the straight cut on the gears

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You are sure right! I spoke without thinking. With the pinion being that far out of center, how much angle will be on the driveshaft? Will the wheelbase be any longer than stock?

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its goning to run at 20 degrees and flat vertical

and it will be @ 2.5" longer at the differential

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That isn't a bad angle at all. From looking at the picture it appears to be alot worse than that. Good luck with the build.

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ill get a pic with the drive shaft installed up

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a gorrilla drive shaft that was made for a rancher with a front diff in the rear

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its at 23 degrees
sorry the pics are so big but i cant seem to get the image insert function to work any more



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i ran it tonight and all seems well. i got the gorrilla grizz outers in and on. i hope to get my knucles by the end of the week.
i chose not to use the honda outer joint because the foreman bearing is too small in my opinion. and i only want to do this once. i like the larger size of the grizzly outers and shape of their knucles.
maybie ill have some pics up sunday of the arms

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u dont need doublr u joints!!!! yall must have never seen a can am rear driveshaft

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the ones ive seen have two u- joints?

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Bikes lookin good. You better hurry. You have 26 days before nats

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lol   ima borrow some hubs and knuckles this weekend to finish the rear

ill prolly kill myself for a few nights but ima get.

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