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Start in gear mod for some honda's by Dynamo


This is for the 400/450


Tired of rocking your Foreman 400 to shift back into neutral when you stall in a mud hole? Want to just push the starter button and be on your way? Here is the solution. Using this method, your neutral and reverse lights will work as they always have. (This modification applies to all years of Foreman 400 models.)
 
Start by removing the seat and battery holder bracket. I also recommend removing the fuel tank cover, right and left hand fuel tank panels, fuel tank, front rack, and front fender. This will give you more room to work.
 
The first step is modifying the wiring at the starter relay so that it operates in any gear. To do this, we need to permanently ground the starter relay’s ground circuit. Find the wiring harness that leads to the starter relay. Carefully slit the harness’ sheathing and cut the Lg/R (light green/red) wire. (Do NOT cut the Lg/R wire too close to the starter relay connector. Make sure to leave yourself enough room to solder in a new length of wire.) Solder a new length of wire to the relay side of the cut Lg/R wire and ground it directly to the negative battery post with a ring terminal. Using shrink tubing, seal the harness side of the cut Lg/R wire. Tape the slit in the sheathing with electrical tape. Now the starter will operate in any gear, including reverse. Here are pictures that show where everything is and what needs to be done for the starter relay modification.

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Next we need to modify the wiring at the ignition control module (ICM) so that spark occurs in any gear when cranking the engine. To do this, we need to permanently ground the ICM. On the 95-03 Foreman 400, the ICM is located under the front fender.

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Carefully slit the sheathing that covers the wiring harness at the ICM’s 2P connector to expose the wires. Look for the Lg/R (light green/red) wire. Cut it. (Do NOT cut the Lg/R wire too close to the ICM’s 2P connector. Make sure to leave yourself enough to room to solder in a new length of wire.)Solder a new length of wire to the ICM side of the cut Lg/R wire. Using shrink tubing, seal the harness side of the cut Lg/R wire. Tape the slit in the sheathing with electrical tape. Here are pictures to make things easier to understand.


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The length of wire that was soldered to the cut Lg/R wire must be grounded. I suggest running this wire along the existing wiring harness under the fuel tank down to where the starter motor is mounted. The main engine ground is located beside the starter motor and this is the best place to ground the ICM’s new ground wire. Solder a ring terminal to the ICM’s new ground wire and ground it with the existing engine ground retaining bolt. Just like this.

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And you’re done. Reinstall the previously removed parts and go for a ride. Now you can start your Foreman 400 in all five forward gears as well as reverse (and obviously neutral). Again, the neutral and reverse lights will work as they always have - they will not be affected by this modification. If you’re not comfortable cutting into your Foreman 400's wiring harness, ask someone with experience in electrical work. Also, make sure to solder all connections and seal them with shrink tubing. I can’t stress this enough.



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00-06 Rancher 350S/350ES to start in gear


Tired of rocking your Rancher 350S/350ES to shift back into neutral when you stall in a mud hole? Want to just push the starter button and be on your way? Here is the solution. Using this method, your neutral and reverse lights will work as they always have. (This modification applies to all years of Rancher 350S/350ES models.)
 

Start by removing the seat and the small plastic lid that covers the battery. Also remove the right front wheel and the right front inner fender. This will give you access to the parts involved.

The first step is modifying the wiring at the starter relay so that it operates in any gear. To do this, we need to permanently ground the starter relay’s ground circuit. Find the wiring harness that leads to the starter relay. Carefully slit the harness’ sheathing and cut the Lg/R (light green/red) wire. (Do NOT cut the Lg/R wire too close to the starter relay connector. Make sure to leave yourself enough room to solder in a new length of wire.) Solder a new length of wire to the relay side of the cut Lg/R wire and ground it directly to the negative battery terminal. Using shrink tubing, seal the harness side of the cut Lg/R wire. Tape the slit in the sheathing with electrical tape. Now the starter will operate in any gear, including reverse. Here are pictures that show where everything is and what needs to be done for the starter relay modification.

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Next we need to modify the wiring at the ICM so that spark occurs in any gear when cranking the engine. To do this, we need to permanently ground the ICM. On the 00-06 Rancher 350S/350ES, the ICM is located inside the right front inner fender.

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Carefully slit the sheathing that covers the wiring harness to expose the ICM’s wiring. Look for the Lg/R (light green/red) wire. Cut it. (Do NOT cut the Lg/R wire too close to the ICM. Make sure to leave yourself enough to room to solder in a new length of wire.)Solder a new length of wire to the ICM side of the cut Lg/R wire. Using shrink tubing, seal the harness side of the cut Lg/R wire. Tape the slit in the sheathing with electrical tape. The length of wire that was soldered to the cut Lg/R wire must be grounded. The Rancher 350's frame ground is located to the left of the ICM and this is the best place to ground the ICM’s new ground wire. Solder a ring terminal to the ICM’s new ground wire and ground it to the frame ground. See illustrations.

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(The following step is only necessary on Rancher 350ES models. It does NOT apply to manual shift models.)

Remove the fuse panel cover (under seat), remove the diode (see below), and reinstall the fuse panel cover.

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And you’re done. Reinstall the battery cover, seat, right front inner fender, right front wheel, and go for a ride. Now you can start your Rancher 350S/350ES in all five forward gears as well as reverse (and obviously neutral). Again, the neutral and reverse lights will work as they always have - they will not be affected by this modification. If you’re not comfortable cutting into your Rancher’s wiring harness, ask someone with experience in electrical work. Also, make sure to solder all connections and seal them with shrink tubing. I can’t stress this enough.

Good luck and let me know if you need any help with this modification.

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RE: Start in gear mod for some honda's by Dynamo


will this work on a rancher as well

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is it a 350

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i like that itll turn my light off lol
i think ill keep a switch in line just in case i need to go back to normal(kids)

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would this work on a 91' 300 fourtrax??

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Hello,

 Is it possible to get the pictures? I did the mod. part of it because of different color wires. I had the grn/red stripe that went into a connector and change to lite blue red stripe, this is at the starter relay. Spliced into that wire and Grounded wire thru a toggle switch. The quad will start in gear but will not shift. I couldn't find the correct wire at the front. HELP please pictures would be great. I would really like this to work correctly to old to be trying to bouch the quad around to get back into neutral. 2001 Honda Rancher 350 ES



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